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Adventures with PLA temperatures

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Kinda rhymes, no?

Given Rick Pollack’s PLA printing success and temperatures at barrel entry rather than nozzle, I should probably start delineating between temperatures at the barrel and nozzle.  If barrel entry temperature is truly a critical factor, then he’s totally right about how going by nozzle temperature is like driving a bus with just the rear view mirrors.

However, this gives me pause.  Everything I’ve read about ABS suggests it may be best to melt it right at the nozzle as quickly as possible.  I’ve found that ABS cools very rapidly too.  PLA on the other hand takes a while to cool (but, then again, I was running my extruder too hot) – with the parts being quite flexible for some time after printing.  If barrel entry temperature is that important, then it seems that PLA must need a longer time to melt.  If this is the case, should the nichrome be wrapped higher on the barrel?  If so, then Rick’s heater cores (which already seem very convenient) are downright brilliant – since you can probably easily adjust where the heat is being applied.

From Nophead’s comment I gather that I was, indeed, running my extruder too hot.  I found that at my ABS temperatures (220+) made the PLA just drip right out of the heater – and once that had basically stop it would then intermittently release little amber droplets of plastic.  I must have been really cooking it.

With the limited printing I managed with PLA I found that it printed well with my non-temperature ABS Skeinforge settings.  So, before I go back to PLA I think I’ll finish tuning my ‘bot using Nick Ames’ Skeinforge tutorial.

How to caliberate and tune Skeinforge for your MakerBot

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Update 4/21/2011: This post is more than a year old.  Since then I’ve created ProfileMaker which should eliminate the need for almost all of these steps.  Share and enjoy!

A MakerBot Operators group member, Cliff Biffle, has posted a very comprehensive list his Skeinforge tuning and calibration procedure.  Cliff owns MakerBot #69 from Batch#4, named Kallisti.  Although Cliff has a MakerBot Skeinforge tuning page, it looks like he hasn’t had a chance to transcribe his lab notebook yet.  However, Cliff has been patient enough to type up his Skeinforge calibration information twice for the benefit of the MakerBot Operators group.  Here are links to his original postings on 1/6/2010 and another on 1/15/2010.

The other day I wanted to go back and find his calibration procedure, but had forgotten who had posted it, when it was posted, and which thread it was posted.  Having now found it, I don’t want to lose it again.  It turns out that Cliff had posted it once in response to my own question about dialing in Skeinforge settings in order to print up lego pieces!  Thanks Cliff!

I’ve mashed his two posts together to put together this checklist:

  1. Adjust Temperature:  Skeinforge -> Raft
    1. Find a temperature that allows you to extrude quickly and easily without too much popping or smoking
    2. MakerBlock: I have one of the 1mm thermistors, use the Zach 1 temperature table, and print reliably at 220
  2. Adjust Layer Height: Skeinforge -> Carve -> Layer Thickness (mm)
    1. Cliff uses the default of 0.36
  3. Adjust Extrusion Speed: Skeinforge -> Speed -> Flowrate PWM Setting (if PWM Setting is Chosen)
    1. Make the extruder go slower and lower the PWM value
    2. Cliff uses 230
  4. Adjust Feedrate: Skeinforge -> Speed -> Feedrate (mm/s)
    1. Too fast and you lose the fine detail and introduce errors.  Too slow and it will be too… slow.
  5. Adjust Skeinforge to understand how much plastic is being extruded
    1. Raise the Z axis and perform a test extrusion into the air
    2. Do not pull or stretch the extrusion
    3. Using calipers, measure its diameter, D
    4. Go into Skeinforge and look up the configured layer thickness, T, from Skeinforge -> Carve -> Layer Thickness (mm)
    5. Divide the diameter by the thickness, D/T
    6. Set Skeinforge -> Speed -> Extrusion Diameter Over Thickness (ratio) to D/T
    7. Print a test piece with thin walls
    8. Measure the width, W, of a single extrusion somewhere above the first few layers
    9. Divide the width by the thickness, W/T
    10. Set Skeinforge -> Carve -> Extrusion Width Over Thickness (ratio) to W/T
      • Cliff said this setting may be in Fill, but I think he may have meant Carve

    11. Nick Ames has suggested setting Skeinforge -> Carve –> Extrusion Width over Thickness (ratio), Skeinforge -> Inset -> Extrusion Perimeter Width over Thickness (ratio), and Skeinforge -> Speed -> Extrusion Diameter over Thickness (ratio) all to the same value.  His post also has a lot of information and links about other potential Skeinforge tuning resources.
  6. Adjust other Skeinforge settings
    1. Overlap of grid corners
    2. Infill density
    3. Unpause
    4. Stretch